Protecting your IP to disguise the state and country you are logging on from..

[bmconsultants]

People post about this subject now regularly asking for help so I thought I'd start a thread to have discussions in one place.

I travel a lot with my job and when I'm away from home I like to play poker and bet on sports (naturally). To begin with it was a real pain in the ass to keep on having my Neteller account closed and having to get my friend to wait and take a call from my phone at home to reactivate it when I logged in from an IP in another state.

(It's okay once they verify that it was you logging in from the IP, but it takes a day sometimes to get them to call your home phone and verify.)

The new self imposed restrictions of offshore wagering sites is also an issue -- many now restrict logins that seem to be coming from any of these states.

* Utah
* Hawaii
* Michigan
* Indiana
* Oregon
* Nevada
* Washington
* Illinois
* Louisiana
* South Dakota

Clearly the offshore sites rely on your telling them what state you are coming from when you signup, but also some match your IP from your broadband ADSL or cable provider which is specific to your state, which is more difficult to get around.

For example Time Warner's Road Runner which just took over Adelphia and Comcast and sends addresses to the gambling sites when you go there like hawaii.rr.com or mi.rr.com that allows the sites to voluntarily block you.

So, that's when I did some research and found out you can get a surfing proxy in Europe to solve this problem:

http://www.gamingtunnel.com (I posted a different URL before-- either of them is okay).

The Gold service makes it look like you are in Europe by giving you a European IP address when you surf using their service.

If you want to see what the offshore sites see now about you, click on the IP Checker there on the front page of the site.

The good thing about this type of paid service is that the IP address doesn't change every few minutes like free services like Tor which causes trouble logging you out all the time, and getting your account temporarily closed with sites like Neteller.

I have almost no trouble with Neteller now I have added the two European IPs the service gives me automatically from time to time depending on the time of day I connect, unlike before when my IP was different depending what hotel or office I was connecting from on my travels and that caused me loads of troubles.

There are other services out there, but this one works fine for me.

 

[WarRoom]

Can you use this service to give you a Canadian IP from the states? Sorry if that qustion is dumb, but this is all new to me.

 

[bmconsultants]

Can you use this service to give you a Canadian IP from the states? Sorry if that qustion is dumb, but this is all new to me.

That's a good question to ask.

Having a Canadian IP doesn't help a huge amount as it looks liek some of the provinces in Canada are going to block online gambling too.

Also if you have a Canadian IP shops like BoDog will block you.

What matters most it to have a consistent IP address when you signup for things and use a site and it's better to have one in Europe.

That's the main advantage of a paid service (as well as the fact that the speed is decent which is not true of the free proxies).

Hope that answers your question okay.

 

[Pitumbo]

wrong thread sorry

 

[bmconsultants]

Which one?

Someone asked which which one to go for.

The Tunnel Gold is the one to go for, not the Tunnel Pro.

The Gold one is cheaper and has the features you need for gaming sites. The Pro is really overkill.

 

[BASEHEAD]

proxy4free.com

Extensive list of proxy servers from all over the world.Often takes awhile to find one that works and often slows down computers operation.I use this IP at work due to a filter:

200.65.127.163 Port: 3128

Has worked for a long time.

 

[bmconsultants]

P.S. Here is another thread where the subject is discussed:
http://forums.therx.com/showthread.php?p=3740006

(And to those who keep on mentioning those stupid free ones, like proxy4free.com put up by some Russian hacker, stick with the paid services. Not only are paid ones like the one I recommend faster, but you don't have a thousand hackers and their dog snooping on your connection.

You don't think they would REALLY give you something like that completely free? Get real.)

 

[Muddy]

what happens when you try to withdraw from the book or neteller and they tell you that 200 other people have used the same ip?

Doesnt neteller block access to ur acct if another account uses the same ip?

 

[bmconsultants]

what happens when you try to withdraw from the book or neteller and they tell you that 200 other people have used the same ip?

Doesnt neteller block access to ur acct if another account uses the same ip?

With Neteller as an example, that's not really the way it works; as long as you confirm with them that you are using a particular IP, it works.

(Otherwise AOL and other users of other services would have a problem, as their IPs come from a pool that means others also use the same IP from time to time.)

If they are trying to use that as an excuse, it's some other problem, like the book doesn't have the money to payout.

The main issue is using one IP one day, and then one in a completely different country the next. That's the main problem with these 'free' proxies.

The main thing problem to be solved here is voluntary blocking by books and services of the IP addresses of people in the US (and soon Canada provinces).

 

[bmconsultants]

And far worse than offshore sites voluntarily blocking people from certain US states is that US Attnorney General Gonzales and the head of the FBi have asked Congress to bring a bill for ISPs to record everything you do on the Internet, and keep it forever!

GOP revives ISP-tracking legislation
http://forums.therx.com/showthread.php?p=3801661

 

[Phaedrus]

You're not really recommending paid "services," are you -- just "service?" Not that there's anything wrong with that but your OP and all follow-ups are pretty blatantly ads.

I use a VPN on my Windows machines and Tor combined with FoxyProxy on my main (Ubutntu Linux) system. Both work like a charm.

GamingTunnel and all other paid services are just as liable to be honeypots for hackers and the state as free services. I don't mean this as an insinuation; it's just that pshaw-ing at p4f and any other free service as being potentially dangerous while you promote a commercial service no one has ever heard of (and I mean "no one" -- virtually zero online reference anywhere aside from forum posts promoting it) is kind of silly.


Phaedrus

 

[bmconsultants]

You're not really recommending paid "services," are you -- just "service?" Not that there's anything wrong with that but your OP and all follow-ups are pretty blatantly ads.

I use a VPN on my Windows machines and Tor combined with FoxyProxy on my main (Ubutntu Linux) system. Both work like a charm.

GamingTunnel and all other paid services are just as liable to be honeypots for hackers and the state as free services. I don't mean this as an insinuation; it's just that pshaw-ing at p4f and any other free service as being potentially dangerous while you promote a commercial service no one has ever heard of (and I mean "no one" -- virtually zero online reference anywhere aside from forum posts promoting it) is kind of silly.


Phaedrus

I enjoy your posts Phaedrus, somehow we never seem to have posted in hte same thread before.

In other posts I have come out in favor of Tor. The problem it is slow, and the IP changes frequently (which causes problems). I have used Torpark but had not heard of FoxyProxy until you mentioned it.

I currently recommend the paid service I know and use myself. But I'm open to other ones.

If I can encourage just one reader here to take their privacy and the threats of data retention seriously and at least get others thinking I will be happy.

You're right that paid on its own is not enough. You want something that has been around a while. The entry URL/domain name is new, but not the Tunnel Gold service itself, which has been around for a few years.

What is the VPN you use on Windows, is it a paid service? Which one is it?

You're right that there are paid srevices to be wary of, but I won't list them here. Each to his own.